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John Bielenberg is a designer, entrepreneur and imaginative advocate for a better world.

Our brains are super efficient at following existing pathways. Try to talk wrong. It’s almost impossible to put words together in a nonsensical sequence. John Bielenberg on breaking patterns.

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