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Leslie Koch was the president and CEO of the Trust for Governors Island.

The question that everyone was asking was, “What is this place going to be?” I said, “That’s not really the right question.” The right question was: “What should we do first?” And that yields a completely different path. Leslie Koch on designing a brand new park

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