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Bobby C. Martin, Jr., is a founding partner of the agency OCD

As a designer, thinking about how one thing relates to the other and how that story can be enhanced or how the narrative can be told or manipulated or dialed up and dialed down is something I get really excited about. Bobby C. Martin Jr. on constructing a story

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